Roses Type 4 - 5 Rose Type 4a/4b Mule 07/09/2011 techsupport Leave a comment Obverse of 4a reading CAROLVS, but 4b reverse reading FRA and HI instead of FRAN and HIB. Two versions recorded ? one with pm=lis/crescent, the other crescent/crescent. Illustrated E.187/P.337. pm=lis/crescent. 1639-43. (ER) vf